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  Help! Gave away all of my reference library. Need information.

  by Odrade in

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  hello all, long time no see to the old-timers, and greetings to the new ones!

  i have a bit of a conundrum, and could use some help from the documentarian crowd.

  over the 10 years since leaving the jws, i've disposed of nearly all wt materials i owned, never anticipating that i would need them.

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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

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  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  The troll can't be bothered thinking of answers to all of the points that were raised, that would take too much effort I suppose..
  For the people who still haven't realised what he is doing, take a look at the words he has capitalised..
  'Pure Language', 'True Christian' (twice), 'Undeserved Kindness'..
  If you still believe that he is genuine, you are likely either the hopelessly trusting sort, or you have recently undergone a lobotomy. For the rest of you, have fun..
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  Theists, why does God allow suffering..

  by The Quiet One in

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  ..specifically, the suffering of animals.

  you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

  i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Look at his reaction here, I think he's been pulling my chain...
  If so, I'm never posting on this site again. I've wasted hours of time and energy that I don't have enough of...
  I won't be missed anyway.
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/265329/2/Never-Become-Enraged-with-Jehovah-tomorrows-WT-Study-pure-vomit#.UlsGM118uo8
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  Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit

  by raymond frantz in

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  never become enraged against jehovah.

  (watchtower study 7-13 october).

  paragraph 4.

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  SFPW isn't a JW after all.. I don't believe it... No JW would laugh at a joke like that.(publicly at least)
  
  *facepalm*.. Misery Loves Elders has returned.
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  Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
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  never become enraged against jehovah.

  (watchtower study 7-13 october).

  paragraph 4.

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  The point from the 1st paragraph, about knowing that your wife didn't trash the house and vandalize it etc..my first thought was 'Okay... but if I was married to Superwoman and she was watching over the house at the time, I'd still be angry that she didn't bother to stop them'.
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Supergirl.PNG
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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Stand for Pure Worship said: "I was born into the True Religion" and "No confusion, or contradicting messages was I exposed to"
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  Something to think about..
  "Isn't it a remarkable coincidence that almost everyone has the same religion as their parents? And it always just happens to be the right religion. Religion runs in families. If we had been born in ancient Greece, we would all be worshipping Zeus and Apollo. If we had been brought up as Vikings, we would be worshipping Thor and Wotan. How does this come about? Through religious childhood indoctrination..The way this affects our ability to objectively search for the true religion (if there is any) is that if people are brainwashed into believing that the religion they have been brought up with is the only true religion, then these biased influences will create huge obstacles in knowing the truth of a religion objectively.
  This can be done by sending a young child to mosque or church every Sunday, labelling the child as a christian or muslim child, indoctrinating them with the belief of your own religion, so that even if they don't practise it completely and are religious, they will still at least believe their religion is true and others are wrong..
  15, 20 or 30 years of indoctrination into one religion with very little knowledge about other religions, means that you will be less inclined to challenge your religious beliefs and leave your belief to try to find the true religion in an objective way. For example, I have debated with Christians and muslims who have studied different religions but when it came to Hinduism or other religions which include polytheistic belief, they would say they don't want to study that religion as they believe that God is only one. However, I argued, if you had been brought up a hindu, believing and worshipping in different Gods would be natural and monotheism would be something alien which you would not want to go into as you had been indoctrinated with polytheism. This is one example which shows how religious childhood indoctrination stops us from objectively searching for and knowing the true religion."
  https://www.debate.org/debates/You-Cannot-Objectively-Know-Which-Religion-Is-True-if-any/1/?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C4406559859
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  Stand For Pure Worship, what convinces you that the governing body is being used by Jehovah? Thanks.

  by The Quiet One in

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  i struggled with this question before i got baptised.

  what helped you to overcome any doubts?.

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  Borrowing a point from Cold Steel on the thread at the end of my post: " there's nothing in the Bible that indicates the Jehovah's Witnesses are God's organization; there are no angelic ministrations, no visions, no dreams, no spiritual gifts. Jesus didn't issue a press release in 1919 when he inspected the earth's religions and came to the rather remarkable conclusion that the Watchtower Society was the closest religion to what he wanted. If true, this is the first time in world history when God took a less than...proactive...part in setting up a kingdom, or church. In the past, Yahweh has not been very passive when it came to naming prophets, calling apostles, warning the wicked. Whereas the Lord spake unto Jeremiah saying, " Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." (Jer. 1:5) He didn't visit the earth and examine everyone who claimed to be a prophet and then choose Jeremiah as being the closest one to what he was looking for. So that's been my major problem with the Watchtower organization. Yahweh didn't instigate the religion, he didn't appear to anyone, didn't send any angels, didn't ordain a soul, never gave them the Keys of the Kingdom, necessary for being able to bind in Heaven or on Earth; never called anyone that we can determine. "
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/265339/1/Crap-help-please#.UlpKll18uo8
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  Theists, why does God allow suffering..

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ..specifically, the suffering of animals.

  you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

  i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

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  Back to the topic..
  Snare&Racket said: "That animals get cancer and are mauled to death without REAL biblical explanation shows well how man has created religion around the story of ....man, explaining his situation in the universe with no interest in whether that story fits in with for example the animals. The story of adam and eve may explain why we get cancer now to a non skeptical believer, but it does not explain away why monkeys get cancer etc."
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  Watchtower Condemns Catholics for Pedophile Cover-Up!

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the watchtower society has condemned the catholic church for over 15 years because of their pedophile cover-up -- now, the watchtower society is trying to make a defense of their own pedophile cover-up by claiming that they are "no worse than any other religion"!.

  statements made to the media by official watchtower society spokesmen about the jehovah's witnesses pedophile problem being "no worse than any other religion":.

  christianity today, january 26th 2001:.

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